Today I present to you, Amanda Montel, a writer, a linguist, a fellow podcast host.

We're gonna podcast together so hard.

It's going to be scary for all of you at home.

Two podcasters together, now that's dangerous.

So buckle your seatbelt.

Amanda has written three books.

One of them is about to come out.

It's called The Age of Magical Overthinking.

Obviously we're all going to be reading it when it comes out, but

today I want to zoom in on one of our many common interests. She wrote a book called cultish. She wrote an entire book about

cults, the language used in cults, cult-like behavior.

I'm excited to talk to her about cults as a whole,

but more than anything, discuss how we participate in cult-like behavior on a day-to-day basis

without even realizing it.

And she's really investigated the line between what is a cult and what is just cult-like behavior, what makes it healthy and what makes it dangerous.

And this is something I am curious to explore

because I think it's a little bit more relevant than we even realize.

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