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#CUBA: Rogue State, Terror State. Mary Anastasia O'Grady, WSJ

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🗓️ 7 January 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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#CUBA: Rogue State, Terror State. Mary Anastasia O'Grady, WSJ
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0:00.0

This is CBS. I on the world. I'm John Batchelah. I welcome Mary Anastasia O'Grady, the America's

0:09.8

columnist and editor for the Wall Street Journal editorial page, writing of the Embassy Five,

0:14.8

the Embassy Five in the Argentinian Embassy in Caracas, Venezuela.

0:22.8

All these things go together because it points to decisions that are pending about Cuba.

0:29.9

Mary, a very good evening to you.

0:31.4

The Embassy 5, you list their names.

0:33.5

You say they are besieged by the Maduro regime, in particular armed men, pounding, starving, embargoing.

0:44.3

They're living on reduced rations in the Argentinian embassy, if I understand correctly.

0:50.3

Why? Why are they there and why is Maduro harassing them?

0:56.1

They're on Argentine ground.

1:00.9

That's agreed upon at embassies. Good evening to you. Well, good evening, John. Yes.

1:08.6

There's five very courageous Venezuelans have been in the Argentine embassy in Caracas since March of last year.

1:19.0

They fled there because they were working as volunteers to try to organize the opposition for the July 28th election.

1:21.4

So they were part of the Democratic opposition.

1:24.5

And Maduro decided that they should be in jail, so they fled there to avoid arrest.

1:30.4

And of course, Argentina, being a country that's sympathetic to freedom and the rights of

1:36.8

democratic actors was a good place for them to go for protection.

1:44.6

And, of course, when they got there, they wanted to be given safe conduct out of the country,

1:49.9

which is part of the international convention called the Caracas Convention,

1:55.7

just sort of ironically that it was actually signed in Caracas.

1:59.7

But Maduro will not let them go.

2:02.2

And so they've been there for nine months.

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