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Lost Debate

Crypto Corruption, Fetterman Crisis, School Reform

Lost Debate

The Branch

News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.6607 Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Ravi kicks off the episode with a blistering critique of the Trump administration’s trade policy chaos, highlighting the economic contradictions, recession risks, and growing corruption tied to foreign investments and crypto schemes. He also addresses the new reports on Senator John Fetterman’s health and why it’s time for leaders to respond to questions about his ability to serve. Ravi then shifts gears to sit down with former U.S. Secretary of Education and current SUNY Chancellor John King for a wide-ranging conversation on public education in America and John’s new book, Teacher by Teacher. John reflects on how his childhood shaped his passion for education and what he’s learned from serving as a teacher, principal, school founder, policy leader, cabinet member under President Obama, and now as the head of the country’s largest state university system. They discuss what’s gone wrong in education reform, what still works, and why public schools remain worth fighting for. Leave us a voicemail with your thoughts on the show! 321-200-0570 --- Follow Ravi at @ravimgupta Follow The Branch at @thebranchmedia Notes from this episode are available on Substack: https://thelostdebate.substack.com/ Lost Debate is available on the following platforms:  • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lost-debate/id1591300785 • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7xR9pch9DrQDiZfGB5oF0F • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LostDebate • Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vTERJNTc1ODE3Mzk3Nw  • iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-lost-debate-88330217/ • Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.co.uk/podcasts/752ca262-2801-466d-9654-2024de72bd1f/the-lost-debate

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Lost Debata Show for Politically Ecclectics.

0:03.0

I'm Robbie Gupta.

0:04.0

And in a few minutes, we're going to hear from John King, who is the current chancellor of the SUNY State University of New York Education System, was the U.S. Secretary of Education.

0:13.9

He also ran New York State schools.

0:17.0

He ran a chunk of uncommon schools, which is probably my favorite network of charter schools.

0:21.7

He also founded Roxbury Prep, which is an early stage charter school out of Boston that influenced a lot of us in the work.

0:28.8

So he is somebody who knows a whole lot about education and is out with a new book called Teacher by Teacher.

0:34.9

And so we're going to talk all about the teaching profession, schools, education, John's story, and then we geek out on things like the Common Core,

0:41.9

et cetera. So you will learn a lot about K-12 education and a little bit about higher education

0:47.2

through that conversation. But before we get there, just a couple of things in my notebook.

0:51.1

Number one, just in terms of things I'm enjoying these days, I'm enjoying the

0:55.1

NBA right now. So far as I'm recording this, every game in this stage of the playoffs has been

1:01.9

an upset where the visitors have won every game, including my New York Knicks over the Celtics.

1:07.2

I think I'm going to go to the game on Saturday when the Celtics come to Madison Square

1:10.7

Garden, and it's a hard ticket to get, but it's one of those New York moments that seems can't really pass it up.

1:17.5

I don't know if our Knicks are going to continue their streak of good luck, but it's been really fun to watch.

1:22.0

The other thing I thought was really interesting is I watched the Mark Twain Prize that Conan O'Brien won the other day. They aired it on

1:30.0

Netflix. And I just enjoyed every second of it. For those of you who are millennials or older,

1:37.5

Conan's been in our life for so long. And it was just so much fun to see him recognized by so many people in the business.

1:46.0

It might be the last Mark Twain prize we get because of things that are happening at the Kennedy

1:49.4

Center.

1:50.9

And I'm just left thinking that this guy is probably the most successful, at least to me,

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