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This Wreckage

CROSSOVER: No Blood for Oil w/ Nostalgia Trap

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Music, Arts

4.2970 Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Sean and David Parsons, host of the excellent history podcast Nostalgia Trap, take a dive into the politics and ideology of fossil fuels through the lens of the 2005 George Clooney and Matt Damon film 'Syriana'. They go back to the 1990s and 2000s, especially the wake of 9/11 and the runup to the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions, to look at the sometimes troubled and myopic, but always fraught, way that Americans understand their relationship to oil and geopolitics.

Out later this week will be follow-up crossover, 'Diving into the Wreckage 2' with C Derrick Varn, about the deep connection between capital accumulation and fossil fuel consumption, globalization and rising emissions, and the future we can expect with climate change. For access to this and more become a patron at www.patreon.com/theantifada

Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, what's up nostalgia trappers?

0:03.0

Welcome to the program, David Parsons here.

0:16.0

I hope you're ready for a very special episode of nostalgia trap. We're talking with Sean from the

0:22.0

Anti Fata Podcast.

0:24.0

If you haven't checked out the Anti-Fata Podcast,

0:26.5

I think nostalgia-trap listeners, especially

0:30.1

will appreciate the way that they approach left-wing politics on that show. It's a really funny show and it also has that sort of international vision that we're always whining here on nostalgia trap that no one does on the left.

0:42.0

Antifada is doing it.

0:44.0

So go check out their podcast.

0:46.0

I've been wanting to talk with Sean for a while.

0:48.0

We're both, I guess, Gen Xers.

0:51.0

I guess.

0:52.0

All that means to me is we both remember the 90s. And we wanted to sort of go back in time in this episode and think about oil and how oil played a very significant part in the wider American left in the 90s and early 2000s.

1:06.8

We both watched this film, Seriana.

1:09.5

Not sure if you've seen that, go ahead and pause this, the film it's in its entirety and then

1:14.7

come back and join us because we do discuss that movie in detail.

1:18.5

Seriana came out in 2005 directed by Stephen Gaggin. It's part of like that whole like I don't know

1:25.2

set of films that were both like documentaries and narrative fiction films that were

1:29.4

sort of about like geopolitics and conspiracies.

1:33.4

I guess traffic, the Sauterberg film would be another example.

1:37.0

Were they going into like a lot of detail about geopolitics?

1:40.1

I was really drawn to Syria on it at the time and watching it again this week was a total mindfuck because it's still a really compelling film and one that as we get into here captures a particular moment in which oil and oil politics seem to explain everything.

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