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EXTENDED PREVIEW: Diving into the Wreckage 2 "Fossil Capital" w/ C. Derrick Varn

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Music, Arts

4.2970 Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2022

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

The long-awaited second installment of Diving Into The Wreckage, the VarnVlog/Antifada crossover series is here! This time, Sean and Derrick put on their doomer caps to discuss capitalism and global warming: Is there a way out within this mode of production? Why have emissions ramped up so much in our lifetimes? What kind of political forces make climate change so intractable? And what does the future look like if we keep going down this path?

This is an extended preview of a longer episode. To access the full ep and tons more bonus content become a patron today at www.patreon.com/theantifada

To watch the video recording of this conversation, do what you should be doing already and subscribe to C. Derrick Varn's excellent content as well: https://www.patreon.com/varnvlog

Music: Gary Numan - This Wreckage

Transcript

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0:00.0

As I talk about, like a lot of the mitigation measures that I see they're just

0:14.9

laughable when you look at the reality of feedback loops. Yeah or to or the

0:20.4

you know the kind of hail Mary of putting sulfites into the atmosphere.

0:24.6

You know, a bunch of planes every year are going to go up and put a million tons of sulfites

0:28.1

into the atmosphere.

0:29.6

Or we're going to have a breakthrough in carbon capture technology.

0:33.2

We're going to be able to, you know, in place like Iceland,

0:36.6

which have a lot of geothermal energy,

0:39.2

we're going to be able to actually pull that carbon

0:41.0

another air on such a industrial scale in order to actually roll this thing back.

0:46.0

But importantly, you know, of course, to be able to maintain the type of economy that we have right now,

0:52.0

the type of production that we have right now, the type of production that we have right now,

0:56.0

and most importantly, the relations of production that we have right now.

1:00.7

Right, so even like in the mainstream discourse any mitigation

1:04.7

whatsoever takes for granted that we're going to continue to have a capitalist

1:08.6

ruling class, you know not just of every nation but globally.

1:20.0

Yeah, and you know it honestly it takes for granted like China's integration in the global capital.

1:30.4

They're from every step of this chain from the small to large, you see an attempt to maintain the status quo. I mean, even progressive fixes to this assume for example the capitalist nation state is a given and you know I hate to tell our Marxist

1:39.8

Linenas friends but the existence of a nation state implies that you still exist in a capitalist form.

1:47.0

Because the... Controversial. The nation state, the nation state implies a form of private ownership even if it is a national ownership.

2:00.3

And if people don't understand that and they think I'm not being a good

2:05.0

somehow being an anarchist I should go back and reingles this critique of the

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