My name is Nickle Stanforth and you're listening to the War on the Rock's podcast covering strategy, defense, and foreign affairs. We're here today to talk

about Iran and we have a lot more to talk about than we expected when we scheduled this.

So I'm delighted to be joined by three of Washington's leading experts on this subject.

We have, in alphabetical order, Eric Brewer, Deputy Vice President for the Nuclear Threat

Initiative's Nuclear Materials Security Program, and he previously served as the Director for Counterproliferation at the National Security Council.

We're also joined today by Dana Stroll, Director of Research and Shelly and Michael Cassin Senior Fellow,

at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

From 2021 to 2023, she served as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Defense for the Middle East.

Finally, we're joined by Commander Gavin Cluff, the 2023-2020-24 Senior U.S. Navy Fellow at the Atlantic Council's

Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security.

He's also a US Navy Foreign Area Officer

and previously served as a Surface Warfare Officer

for 10 years.

At which point your Atlantic Council bio says you were circumnavigating the globe, which is not a phrase.

That was.

Get to use often enough.

Thank you all for joining us today.

Pleasure to be with you.

Thanks.

Great being here.

Let me start by asking you over the last couple of weeks as we've seen all sorts of activity

in the Middle East.

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