Creative Capital Podcast 383: No Rent, No Rules, No Problem! Inside Real Estate’s Dark Side with Mark Shuler
Creative Capital
Josh Ferrari
5 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 23 May 2025
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Ever had protestors show up at your house because you bought a building and raised the rent? Or tenants gaming the system for years without paying a dime?
Mark Schuler has. From eviction moratoriums and slumlord smear campaigns in Seattle to buildings torched by ex-cons and tragic on-site deaths—this part of our conversation dives into the grittiest realities of being a landlord and syndicator.
- A tenant set fire to the building.
- Protestors picketed Mark’s home.
- You can’t do criminal background checks in some cities.
- What actually happens when a tenant dies and nobody notices?
This is where real estate stops being theory and becomes real life. Mark shares the war stories, lessons learned, and how to underwrite for chaos while still creating wealth for his investors.
If you’re investing passively or actively—or thinking about it—you can’t afford to miss this part of the episode.
Listen now! 🎧
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- Website: https://sgreinvestments.com/
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to the Creative Capital podcast. |
| 0:08.2 | You're dying to learn about how you can create wealth through real estate investing, |
| 0:11.5 | then you come to the right place. |
| 0:13.8 | Join in every week as we go over the ends and outs of real estate investing |
| 0:17.8 | and learn how you too can become financially free. |
| 0:23.1 | Mark Schuller. |
| 0:25.2 | What's going on, man? |
| 0:25.9 | It's good to have you out on the show with us today. |
| 0:27.6 | Oh, thanks. |
| 0:28.4 | I'm glad to be here. |
| 0:30.1 | Now, I know we've got a lot to unpack today, a lot to discuss. |
| 0:34.4 | But before we do, for those out there listening, |
| 0:36.0 | that honestly I have no idea who you are, |
| 0:41.9 | can you give us just a brief background on yourself and tell us at the end of the day what what that got you into real estate? Yeah, sure. My name is Mark Schuller, and I am a practicing |
| 0:48.2 | architect in Seattle. I've been here for 35 years or so. I have done hundreds of structures. |
| 0:57.0 | And along the way, I started getting the real estate bug probably in the early aughts. |
| 1:02.0 | I went to the University of Washington and got a degree in commercial real estate development. |
| 1:08.0 | And probably by 2010 or 12, after the meltdown, I started getting serious about it and |
| 1:15.5 | started syndicating apartment deals. |
| 1:18.3 | So to date, I've done probably 15 of those. |
| 1:21.1 | Currently, my partners have about 5,000 doors under management, 600 million assets under management and about 12,000 |
| 1:30.2 | residents. |
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