Kevin DeYoung offers some advice for parents who demand a standard of their children that they don't live themselves.

The easiest way, the best way to produce Pharisees is to be a Pharisee.

I mean, to be a parent with this hypocrisy or with this huge gap between what you say and insist upon and what you actually do in your life.

This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast for Thursday, November 17, 2016.

Ask anyone how they're doing, and you'll likely hear, busy.

Pastor Kevin DeYoung talked about our level of busyness the last few days.

He's been talking with Nancy DeMoss Walgamuth this week about his book, Crazy Busy.

Yesterday we got Kevin's wife, Trisha, into the conversation.

She's a busy mom of a young family, and I know her perspective was helpful.

Kevin and Trisha talked about the value of family devotions, even during busy seasons of life.

We stopped partway through that conversation yesterday, and today we'll hear

part two. Here's Nancy. So, Tricia, what are some of the ways practically in the course of

your life as a mom, that you're trying to cultivate an environment that is conducive to your children

growing, spiritually learning to love the Lord, growing up in

grace. If we were to come and visit your house, apart from the chaos, we've talked about that,

what would be some of the things we might see you and Kevin doing to try and cultivate that

atmosphere of grace? I mean, the simplest is just to read the Bible or to read. I mean, there's a lot of good

story Bibles, too, I feel like. So how do you guys do that? You've got kids 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, and newborn.

Yes. What does it look like for you guys? I feel like I just bought a new storybook Bible so I could

have some fresh material. We've kind of done the Jesus

Storybook Bible and we got another one, the big picture. And I, so I think sometimes, I mean,

evening time right before bed is a nice time. It's also nice that I have the older kids who are

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