I am Jain Nordlinger with Jim Garrity at CPAC for National Review and Ricochet.

And our guest is the former governor of Maryland, the formidable Bob Erlich.

Nice to see you, Gov.

You forgot handsome, Jay.

Oh, I think we'll work that in later.

It's just an audio thing. It's not a video.

It's good to see you guys. I'll tell you, a year ago, right? A year ago, a year ago.

That's right. It's downstairs last year. And not you, but it's good to see you both. Welcome to Maryland.

Multipart democracy is broken out yet again.

I was going to say.

Yeah, so my first thought is, you know, so obviously you're a couple of, please just punch with Larry Hogan becoming the governor of Maryland.

My oldest friends of politics.

Does it make you a little bit less special as a Republican governor of Maryland?

Does it, you know?

According to my wife for my parents, So the first is still okay.

Larry was a member of my cabinet, my appointment secretary.

The first campaign I ever volunteered for in law school

was his dad running against Paul Sarbanes.

The United States said in 1982.

So Larry and I go back that far.

It's basically a lot of my folks come back obviously to Annapolis,

a lot of my cabinet secretaries, a lot of my

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