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This is Jim Garrity for the National Review Podcast sponsored by Ricochet.

I am joined by Kansas Governor Sam Brownback and there are a lot of questions I wanted to ask you, but the first one is,

I remember reading the press, September, October, getting into November.

You were supposed to be a dead man walking at that point and you look very healthy,

you know, you were supposed to be retired Governor Brownback at this time.

So what happened?

How did you go from being utterly doomed and you know the vultures circling around you to a

reelected second-term governor in Kansas?

Well I really question a lot of the polling anymore and I also refer to myself as the

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