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Hello and welcome to Coronamics. The Spectator' podcasts on stories from countries turned upside down by COVID-19.

I'm Kate Andrews.

Today kicks off our first episode of the second series of coronomics and features a panel of guests based around the world who have selected a story that gives you an inside look at what's happening outside their windows. Frederick Erickson is reporting from Sweden, and director of the think

tank, ECIPE. Nick Gillespie is reporting from New York City, an editor-at-large-Farizzen magazine,

and Maricio Savarizi is reporting from Brazil and a reporter for the Associated Press.

Welcome all. Maricio, I'm going to

start with you and the article you've chosen is also from the Associated Press about Brazil's

death toll and a major decision by the government to stop publishing the official figures. Talk us

through this. Well, it's so fluid nowadays that the article I sent Sunday is no longer 100%

valid now. There's been a very big pushback to the government, so it would publish the actual

figures. Former health ministers are teaming up to set up other sites. So there's a sort of a rebellion

against Brazil's government's war on information.

And there's an article today in a very big newspaper here saying that the military personnel

that are now in the health ministry are really pushing doctors to change the way they count

the figures and the doctors are reacting.

So this article we wrote,

my colleague Gianjante, she wrote that a couple of days ago. And one of the people there that was pushing for that, who wasn't even appointed to the health ministry, resigned before he took

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