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Science Vs

Coronavirus: The Mask Wars

Science Vs

Spotify Studios

Education, Science, Health & Fitness

4.412.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2020

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

When the pandemic started, we were told not to bother with masks. But now it looks like experts have done a 180 here, and a lot of us are being told to cover our mugs when we leave the house. So which is it? Should we mask up or not? To find out, we talk to epidemiologist Professor Benjamin Cowling, microbiologist Dr. Anna Davies, and clinical psychologist Dr. Olga Perski. Also: RED DEVIL SQUID!! Here’s a link to our transcript: https://bit.ly/2LxuxTW And here’s a link to the squid video: https://youtu.be/iANgyT95bmA  This episode was produced by Wendy Zukerman with help from Michelle Dang, Rose Rimler, Meryl Horn, Laura Morris and Sinduja Srinivasan. We’re edited by Blythe Terrell with help from Caitlin Kenney. Fact checking by Diane Kelly. Mix and sound design by Peter Leonard. Music written by Peter Leonard, Marcus Bagala, Emma Munger, and Bobby Lord. A huge thanks to all the researchers we got in touch with for this episode, including Dr. David Simons and Benjamin Burford. And special thanks to the Zukerman family and Joseph Lavelle Wilson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman and you're listening to Science Vestus from Gimlet.

0:04.0

On today's show, what does the science tell us about wearing masks?

0:11.0

Like, should we be putting them on or not?

0:19.0

Back in March, the message about masks was pretty clear.

0:22.0

Healthcare workers needed them.

0:24.0

But for the rest of us, don't bother.

0:28.0

Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks.

0:33.0

Here at the CDC, they argue that having the average person wear an ordinary mask can be counterproductive.

0:41.0

The World Health Organization says unless you're sick, you don't need a mask.

0:46.0

But just a month later, by April, things started to change.

0:51.0

Like here in New York, we were told it's mandatory to wear masks.

0:56.0

All people in public, you must wear a mask.

1:00.0

The CDC was on the mask train too.

1:03.0

But they were like, don't wear medical masks.

1:06.0

What you should be wearing is a cloth mask.

1:09.0

And suddenly, it felt like Anthony Fauci was singing a different tune.

1:15.0

I think for the time being, it should be a very regular part of how we prevent the spread of infection.

1:23.0

These days, there's such a push behind cloth masks, but even the surgeon general is putting out tutorials on how to whip one up at home.

1:33.0

Here's how you can make your own base covering in a few easy steps with items you can find around the house.

1:38.0

It's that easy.

1:40.0

But is it that easy?

1:43.0

All this flip-flopping advice and confusion has landed us in a place where some people say, yes, masks are super important for getting this under control.

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