meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The "What is Money?" Show

Core vs Knots — Who’s Really Controlling Bitcoin? w/ Jameson Lopp

The "What is Money?" Show

Robert Breedlove

Bitcoin, Breedlove, What Is Money, Investing, Rabbit Hole, Cryptocurrency, Money, Finance, Education, Robert Breedlove, History

4.8710 Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2025

⏱️ 103 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Jameson Lopp joins Robert Breedlove to break down the Core vs Knots debate, the parallels to the Blocksize Wars, and who decides what counts as spam on Bitcoin. They discuss raising the OP_Return limit, the need for increased blockspace demand, and whether Core vs Knots is a coordinated attack on the Bitcoin network. Lopp also shares his take on Ethereum’s value proposition, Bitcoin’s antifragility, and his existential fear for Bitcoin’s future. Jameson Lopp is a co-founder and Chief Security Officer at Casa.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

It seems like the Bitcoin maxes are very anti-core 30 and they're very pro-nots.

0:05.0

What is it that they're not understanding that you do understand?

0:08.7

If you believe that, you know, getting to 50% of the network or whatever is going to stop that

0:14.5

data from propagating, you're just fooling yourself.

0:17.3

And so what I've been telling people for a while now is like, if we want to stop the

0:21.6

spam, you need to get people to use Bitcoin more in the way that you want them to use it. It doesn't

0:27.2

actually really become a legal issue or liability unless you're building additional functionality

0:33.6

that is extracting that data and transforming it into a JPEG that could then be interpreted by a human as that illegal content.

0:41.9

What problem does taking the opereturn from 80 to a, was it 80 bytes to 100 kilobytes?

0:48.1

I think you said.

0:49.2

What problem does that solve?

1:00.5

Hmm. does that solve? Jameson, it's good to see you again.

1:03.5

Long time no see.

1:05.4

Yeah, I think last time we spoke was in person in Nashville, Miami yeah yeah it's been a while a lot has happened

1:19.2

since the last we spoke especially around this whole Bitcoin knots versus core debate debacle

1:26.3

I don't know what it is we've spoken with a couple of people

1:31.3

on the show about it i was just telling you offline like it seems like from a distance that the

1:36.8

community wherever you circumscribe that is siding with knots and then um you know people are on both sides are accusing the other side of

1:47.5

being infiltrated hijacked compromised etc um i don't really have a strong opinion on all of this

1:55.4

i feel like everyone should just run a node and let the market sort it out but i'm hoping that you

2:00.7

can maybe tease

2:01.7

out some of the nuance. And I know you said you've been talking about this for a while. You might

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Robert Breedlove, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Robert Breedlove and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.