Cooking, Music, and Creativity With Samin Nosrat and Hrishikesh Hirway

The Dave Chang Show

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Food, Arts, Society & Culture

4.8 • 8.7K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Dave makes Snickerdoodles as their name implies: with Snickers. He then brings the...interesting... results to an interview with Samin Nosrat, author of Salt Fat Acid Heat and new cookbook Good Things, and her co-host of Home Cooking and host of Song Exploder, Hrishikesh Hirway, where the trio discusses successful partnerships, perfectionism, and what the future of creative endeavors looks like. Dave finishes with a home food hack: how to make a delicious and dazzling dumpling skirt. Dave also announces the inaugural Ask Dave prize package winner. Send yours in for a chance to win! Send in your Ask Dave questions to bit.ly/AskDaveForm or askdave@majordomomedia.com. Learn more about Samin: https://ciaosamin.com/ Learn more about Hrishikesh: https://hrishikesh.co/ Follow Samin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ciaosamin/?hl=en Follow Hrishikesh on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hrishihirway/ Learn more about Samin’s upcoming tour stops: https://ciaosamin.com/appearances Check out Samin's new book Good Things: https://www.amazon.com/Good-Things-Recipes-Rituals-Cookbook/dp/1984857789?&linkCode=sl1&tag=majordomotv-20&linkId=93c3c814fceac98da6ed148e9a0e2885&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl Check out Samin's new Substack, A Grain of Salt here: https://ciaosamin.substack.com/ Check out the Home Cooking podcast: https://homecooking.show/ Check out Hrishikesh on Recipe Club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECn7sAhFsM Check out the Song Exploder podcast: https://songexploder.net/ Check out Hrishikesh's Netflix show Song Exploder: https://www.netflix.com/title/80992997 Check out Samin's Netflix show Salt Fat Acid Heat: https://www.netflix.com/title/80198288 Check out Hrishikesh on Recipe Club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECn7sAhFsM Check out GoodBoyNoah’s Snickerdoodles recipe: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDX07Uwp0gc/?hl=en Learn more about Hillstone Restaurant Group: https://hillstone.com/ Learn more about Bibigo Mandu: https://www.bibigousa.com/collections/dumplings Read The New Yorker profile on Momofuku Ssam Bar: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/10/16/momofuku-ssam-bar Learn more about Benton’s Ham: https://www.bentonscountryham.com/ Read the Kyle Chayka article Samin and Hrishikesh mention: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/jan/16/the-tyranny-of-the-algorithm-why-every-coffee-shop-looks-the-same Learn more about Kismet: https://www.kismetla.com/ Learn more about Calif Chicken Cafe: https://www.califchickencafe.com/ Learn more about Sarah Kieffer’s pan-banging cookie: https://www.thevanillabeanblog.com/pan-banging-chocolate-chip-cookies/ Learn more about the coconut water soup stock recipe Samin mentions: https://food52.com/recipes/78595-yi-jun-loh-s-one-pot-coconut-water-abc-soup?srsltid=AfmBOorwKoG734T0MjFc6sn5fnE23snRZiM4nHUxMzP2St5iNFh2hMiP Learn more about Samin testing her coffee: https://ciaosamin.substack.com/p/some-notes-on-cold-brew-coffee-testing Learn more about the book Hrishikesh mentioned: https://www.amazon.com/Conversations-Walter-Murch-Editing-Film/dp/0375709827?&linkCode=sl1&tag=majordomotv-20&linkId=0fc3ede5b2d6402a7d33b4ac3b079157&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl Watch Hrishikesh talk about the poem One Art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylcxKnn32D0 Learn more about Asian Legend Toronto, which inspired the mandu lattice tip: https://www.asianlegend.ca/home.php Subscribe to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedavechangshow. Subscribe to Recipe Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@recipeclubofficial. Submit your favorite food moments in your favorite movies to majorfoodporn.com. Join our community Discord on majordomo.com. Free Grubhub+. It's on Prime. *Additional terms apply* Host: Dave Chang Guests: Samin Nosrat and Hrishikesh Hirway Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer and Kelsey Rearden Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Editor: Stefano Sanchez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey guys, Dave Teng here. We are at our studio. We're at Studio to downtown Los Angeles at the row.
0:06.6	I have two guests today, Rishi Keshe Heroway and Samin Nosrat. You may be familiar with Rishikesh and his great podcast song Exploder and he had the Netflix series.
0:18.4	And his partner in crime on home cooking is none other than the great
0:22.4	prolific chef author bestselling etc etc world-class Samin Nosrat and she has a new cookbook
0:30.1	out as well their close friends Samin doesn't have a lot of cookie recipes she has a lot of desserts
0:36.4	I'm a terrible pastry chef.
0:39.3	But stay tuned and you'll see what I'm baking.
0:43.6	This episode of the Dave Chang Show is presented by Prime.
0:46.4	You've got five hungry friends in your living room.
0:48.8	The drinks will only hold them for so long.
0:50.8	I know the feeling.
0:52.3	I also know that sometimes back in the kitchen, it's absolute chaos.
0:56.4	Meat overcooked, potatoes under, too much salt in the sauce, too little sauce for the noodles.
1:02.3	Luckily, you get free Grubhub Plus with Prime. So with a few taps, dinner saved, and so is your
1:08.6	reputation. Free Grubhub Plus, it's on prime.
1:13.0	Additional terms and fees apply.
1:18.2	Welcome to the Dave Chang Show, part of the Ringer podcast network, part of Major Dome Media.
1:21.9	Thank you, Al-Latango, as always.
1:24.2	As in the opening, we are cooking at the studio.
1:28.3	I'm currently waiting for cookies that I'm baking for Rishikesh and Samin.
1:34.3	Rishikesh on recipe club made cookies.
1:39.3	He's well known besides his musical endeavors to be a true cookie connoisseur and samine as you all know from her
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