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The Dave Chang Show

Catching Fish, Releasing Control With RA Beattie and Mike Dawes

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Food, Arts, Society & Culture

4.88.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Dave recounts a fly-fishing trip to Mexico, where he encountered the fish that now haunts his dreams. He reflects on how the experience is less about catching fish and more about testing fate, and what it means to release not just the fish, but your own power. He wraps up with an Ask Dave segment about a dinner reservation quandary. Check out RA Beattie's films: https://www.youtube.com/@offthegridstudios Check out West Bank Anglers: https://westbankanglers.com/ Learn more about Blacksmith Lodge: https://www.blacksmithlodge.com/ Learn more about 3 Bird Clothing: https://3bird.com/ Learn more about Alinea: https://www.alinearestaurant.com/ Learn more about Aviary: https://www.theaviary.com/ Learn more about El Bulli: https://elbullifoundation.com/elbulli1846/en/ Learn more about The French Laundry: https://thomaskeller.com/tfl/ Learn more about Tock: https://www.exploretock.com/ Send in your Ask Dave questions to bit.ly/AskDaveForm or askdave@majordomomedia.com. Subscribe to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedavechangshow. Subscribe to Recipe Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@recipeclubofficial. Submit your favorite food moments in your favorite movies to majorfoodporn.com. Join our community Discord on majordomo.com. Free Grubhub+. It's on Prime. *Additional terms apply* Host: Dave Chang Guests: RA Beattie and Mike Dawes Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer and Kelsey Rearden  Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Editor: Stefano Sanchez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

So today on this podcast, I'm going to talk about permit.

0:03.6

And if you stay tuned, you'll understand that I'm not talking about a license, if you're so inclined.

0:14.0

Welcome to the Dave Chang Show, part of the Ringer podcast network presented by Major Demedia.

0:17.3

Thank you, Yolata, as always.

0:19.4

This is going to be a podcast in a few parts.

0:22.2

I'm currently in Los Angeles, but I recorded a interesting podcast with two of my buddies

0:27.6

down in Punta Allen, Mexico, which is an island about an hour and a half outside, I don't know,

0:36.8

five-hour drive, about an hour in a very dangerous plane from Tulum.

0:43.8

I did an interview with Michael Dawes and West Bank Anglers, one of the great fly fishing people in the business in R.A. Biotty.

0:52.2

If you don't know those names hopefully you'll find some

0:55.2

interest r a is also if you were skiing fanatic growing up and you watch warren miller skiing

1:00.8

films r a badi is like the fly fishing equivalent of warren miller and uh they're they're good buddies

1:07.5

i've known mike for since 1999 and i don't know why you would know this.

1:14.5

I'm a avid fly fisherman. I do have been doing a long time since 1999. And as much as I like to fish for trout, my great passion in life besides working on Momofuku things and mdm and all the tv media shit that we do

1:32.6

my real true hobby if i can say one is fly fishing saltwater fly fishing in the flats for a

1:41.4

specific fish that is called permit.

1:45.7

And I want you to know that this sort of ties in and a general sort of idea of major

1:50.8

dumbing about getting off your ass and doing things.

1:53.2

This episode of the Dave Chang Show is presented by Prime.

1:56.2

You've got five hungry friends in your living room.

1:58.4

The drinks will only hold them for so long.

2:00.4

I know the

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