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Welcome to the day of Changshow, part of the Ring of Podcast Network presented by major

DOMa media.

Today's guest is the Pulitzer Prize winning art critic, Jerry Salts, of New York Magazine.

Every honor to have him join us as our guest today.

We got in all kinds of conversations in this podcast, mostly me asking questions about

art and how it might be able to compare favorably to food and the trials and tribulations of trying

to do what you love.

And Jerry is someone that's fascinating and interesting to me because art as a whole

is probably the most studied, most criticized, and we have the most knowledge and data of

than anything else in the world.

Since the dawn, a man we've been making art and we've had viewpoints and collected it.

And if I'm better going to understand the culinary profession, which is very short compared

...