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Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

Competition, Olympic Greatness, and Transitions | Apolo Ohno

Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

Dr. Michael Gervais

Sport Psychology, Finding Mastery, Mental Health, Mindfulness, Business, Self Help, Michael Gervais, Health & Fitness, Mindset, Psychology, Self-improvement, Education

4.71.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2019

⏱️ 122 minutes

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Summary

This week’s conversation is with Apolo Anton-Ohno, an eight time Winter Olympics Medalist and a flat out legend in short track speed skating. .

With two gold, two silver, and four bronze medals, Apolo is the most decorated American Olympian at the Winter Olympics.

Apolo remains involved in the Olympic movement as an ambassador to the Olympic Games, the Special Olympics, and also serves as a broadcaster for NBC.

In addition, he is on the 2026/2030 Winter Olympic bid committee for Salt Lake City, Utah & involved with the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.

Apolo is also a New York Times best-selling author.

He’s currently writing a new book on his transition from the Olympic spotlight into “real life,” covering his challenges, failures, and triumphs.

And we definitely touch on transition in this conversation.

Apolo is a dominant competitor and we unpack where that came from, how it played a role in his Olympic success, and how he’s had to adjust in his post-speed skating life.

This is a candid conversation – I think you’ll really appreciate Apolo’s willingness to explore intimate topics and hold nothing back.

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0:00.0

When I competed against my own teammates, I wanted to psychologically damage their ability to ever want to beat me.

0:08.0

It was very violent, right? So like, I didn't want to physically hurt anybody,

0:12.0

but I wanted them to never ever dare try to claim the throne for 12 years.

0:18.0

It was like that in the US.

0:20.0

And when someone did and they came close, I took it very personally.

0:24.0

All right, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery Podcast. I'm Michael Jervais.

0:38.0

And by Trade and Training, I'm a Sport and Performance Psychologist, as well as the co-founder of

0:42.0

Compete to Create.

0:44.0

And the whole idea behind these conversations is to learn from people who are dedicated to mastery.

0:50.0

And we want to understand how they organize their inner life, what they're searching for,

0:54.7

how they deal with adversities and challenges, what it means to fully dedicate one's life

1:00.4

towards progression, towards mastery.

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