Cold Cases SOLVED! Undercover Cops Get DNA From Suspect with "Chewing Gum Trick"
Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan
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🗓️ 28 May 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
July 12, 1980, Everett, Washington: Married, mother of two, Susan Vesey, was found dead in her home the morning after her 21st birthday. Her children were home while she was tied up, beaten, sexually assaulted and strangled. Many possible suspects, including her husband and brother-in-law, were interviewed, but no arrest was made, and the case went cold. June 2, 1984, Everett, Washington: Passerby calls 911 from a pay phone to report a fire in a small apartment building. Firefighters rush in to put out the fire and find Judy Weaver, tied up with a phone cord, strangled, brutalized and dead. The investigation stalls and goes cold. In the Weaver evidence file - a piece of carpeting from the apartment and a cigarette butt from the potential suspect. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dig into the files of Susan Vesey and Judy Weaver and explain how those murders were directly tied to a sexual assault in 1979 of a woman who was able to escape the monster and the sexual assault of two sisters in 1984, that landed the suspect in prison, his DNA in CODIS, and creative undercover investigators using the "chewing gum trick" to solve two cold case homicides.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:05.7 | Bodybacks with Joseph Scott Moore. |
| 0:14.1 | How many times you've been walking down the street and you get to your destination or maybe even down a hallway and you feel something on the bottom of your |
| 0:25.6 | shoe and you lift your shoe up and there there it sits a hunk of gum that came out of somebody's mouth |
| 0:37.0 | and they just deposited on the side of the street A hunk of gum that came out of somebody's mouth. |
| 0:43.7 | And they just deposited it on the side of the street, where you're walking. |
| 0:45.0 | Or even worse. |
| 0:48.9 | Have you ever been to a theater and you sat down in a seat? |
| 1:00.6 | And you realize that when you get up to get more popcorn or go to the restaurant, it's a bit more difficult to get up because somebody left bubble gum in the seat. |
| 1:03.2 | Amazing. |
| 1:08.8 | I've never been one to do that, but obviously there are people out there that do. Some do it because they just don't have a garbage can nearby, or I guess some of them do it because they think it'd be funny. |
| 1:18.0 | Today, we're going to talk about a couple of cases that interestingly enough have become adherent over the years, just like your foot does, to discard it |
| 1:31.9 | stick of gum. |
| 1:33.1 | I'm Joseph Scott Morgan, and this is Bodybacks. |
| 1:40.9 | Dave, you got a favorite type of gum? |
| 1:42.8 | Oh, man. |
| 2:02.9 | Bubbillicious probably, or hubba, one of those. Yeah. Hubba bubba. Yeah, I hadn't heard that in a long time. You know what my favorite was when I was kid? Fruit Striight. Really? I loved Fruit Stripe. The problem with fruit stripe, though, the flavors never lasted long enough. You know, you just wanted to go on and on forever and ever so funny then i became a big red fan oh dude love that you know yeah but yeah i don't |
| 2:09.7 | chew as much gum anymore uh but yeah yeah i've always loved gum but when i saw this story pop up joe, I'm not kidding, I thought the gum trick, you know? |
| 2:20.4 | And I thought, yeah, investigators nowadays, you've got all great technology and I, it, |
| 2:27.1 | you've mentioned this before, but the way technology has grown, and I know that it seems |
| 2:32.9 | very advanced now, but I keep wondering, what's it going to be like in 10 years? What was it like 10 years for us, 20 years for us? You know, and I just can't imagine. Eventually, it's going to be where you're going to commit a crime and cops are going to show up while you're still there and just cuff you and take you away. It's all done, you know? Minority report, if you ever saw that movie. |
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