Welcome to the Judge John Hodgman podcast. I'm Bale of Jesse Thorn. We're in chambers

this week clearing the docket. And with me is a man who just noticed there's some construction

going on on the street outside his house. Judge John Hodgman.

Here in Brooklyn, New York, it has been a quiet moment. It's lovely to see you, Jesse

there in Los Angeles. And you producer Jennifer Marmerd there in Los Angeles using teleconference

technology, which we've become. Oh, so fond of the past year. But Jesse, I see you. You

are in a professional setting. Are you not? Yeah, I'm in the studios of Maximumfund.org

in the American cement building, Los Angeles, California, overlooking beautiful MacArthur

Park Lake. So that means there will be no cameos from Levy the Leaf Blower. No, most

the pile drivers name I don't remember. But I think you New York construction is a different

breed. I have a friend who's a podcast professional podcast, her name Brian Heeter host of the

podcast R.I.Y.L recommended if you like. And Brian is a New Yorker. He's had construction

outside his window this entire pandemic time. And at one point, he posted a video shot out

of the window that he faces when he's podcasting. And the construction is on this very narrow

row house. And the construction was just one man throwing things out of a window like a

third story window. That's the definition of New York construction, like 30% of a toilet

out the window. Sure. When my wife was a whole human being on her own right moved to New

York. Well, before I did with our dear friend Christine, they shared an apartment together.

And they moved to this apartment and the person before them had left behind a sofa. And

the question was, what do we do with the sofa? How do we throw the sofa away? And between

my wife was a whole human being in Christine, they realized, well, we're in New York now.

We just throw it out the window. It was truly, and this made perfect sense to me because

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