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🗓️ 8 July 2025
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Zut alors! The French are in town. Emmanuel Macron is on his state visit this week, spending time today with the King and tomorrow with the Prime Minister. His itinerary includes a state dinner and an address to both Houses of Parliament this afternoon.
All the pageantry, of course, is for a reason: to defrost what Tim Shipman calls the ‘entente glaciale’ and the stalemate over migration. Keir will be hoping to get the French to sign a ‘one in, one out’ migration deal – with Labour seemingly surprised that, upon coming into power, the French didn’t roll over and make concessions on small boats when a left-wing government took office. Can we expect a new entente cordiale? Is there anything in it for Macron when it comes to stopping the boats?
We also received the sad news today that Tory grandee Norman Tebbit and regular Spectator contributor Jonathan Miller have passed away. We remember both of them on the podcast.
James Heale speaks to Tim Shipman and Freddy Gray.
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0:45.6 | Bonjour and welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm James Hill and I'm joined today by Freddie Gray and Tim Shipman. |
0:46.8 | Ooh-l-la-la. Absolutely. Absolutely. So now, Tim, obviously the reason we're talking in |
0:51.8 | bad French is because, of course, Emmanuel Macron has come to town. You've written an excellent piece for coffee house talking about |
0:56.8 | why it's going to be an Entente-Gla-Calle when he meets with Kirstama later today. Tell us |
1:01.3 | more about this big state visit. Well, look, we've got two days of it. The first day is with the |
1:05.0 | King and the second day is with the Prime Minister. And the morning papers were full of, you know, the excitement of whether or not a migration deal will be signed. |
1:13.0 | And the idea is that the French will start taking back some of the people who've come illegally on small boats. |
1:18.3 | And in return, we will take people who have a family connection to Britain. |
1:21.9 | So that's not going to make much of a dent initially in the migration net numbers. |
1:26.3 | But the hope is if this deal comes off, that in time, |
1:31.4 | it will look at least like we're in control of who's coming in a little bit more, |
1:34.9 | and will that begin to act as a deterrent? |
1:37.8 | If people think if they come over on a boat, they're going to get sent back, |
1:41.3 | then if it works, that could have some kind of effect in the same way |
1:45.7 | that the Rwanda deal appeared to last year. It's one of those ones where there's a summit and |
1:50.4 | everyone's pretending that it's all going down to the wire and will, will, they or won't they sign this |
1:54.4 | deal and presumably they will sign the deal otherwise. I mean, if they don't, it will be |
1:58.3 | pretty embarrassing humiliation for the prime minister. |
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