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Hello and welcome back to the Americano show, where we talk about power, politics, and prejudices in American life.

Every week we will talk to at least one or two or possibly three or four American experts, international experts about American affairs.

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Today I am delighted to be joined by one of our favourite guests, Victor Davis-Hanson,

who is a classicist and scholar and the author of The End of Everything,

which is coming out in paperback in the United Kingdom in October,

and I thoroughly recommend the book.

We've actually done a podcast discussing it before,

and you can look that up if you want to.

Victor, I thought we'd start by talking about a story

that's really been causing quite a lot of interest

on this side of the Atlantic and a lot more in America.

And that's the primary election victory of

Zoran Mandami, which seems to a lot of Brits to be a very un-American story because socialists tend not to win

important democratic election victories.

Yeah, there's so many exegesis here in the United States to explain this, as you say, this apparent aberration.

One of it is the ranked voting system. It's kind of a Byzantine process where people give multiple votes. It takes a long

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