Hi, my name is John Kim. I'm a therapist who went through his own rebirth many years ago

and I've been documenting my journey ever since sharing my life lessons and revelations.

I believe in casual or clinical with you instead of at you. I come unrehearsed on purpose

because self-health doesn't have to be so complicated. Today's episode is all Vanessa Bennett, my partner, who specializes in codependency, which I think is a foundational topic and this is her lecture from one of the retreats we ran.

It's going to be a series so look out for the other episodes.

It's I think imperative codependency is imperative to understand

when it comes to not just your romantic relationships,

for all your relationships.

So here's Vanessa Bennett.

I would say in the last five-ish years, So much of my work as a therapist has completely evolved in my thinking. I say all that to say that it was like these kind of breadcrums that really started

informing the way when I was sitting across with clients I was going, oh my God, there is such consistency in the way that people struggle.

I don't care what your background is, I don't care socioeconomic status, I don't care gender,

I don't care, you know, career, I don't care any, I mean there's such a consistency

across people. Now I say that within maybe more of like a Western kind of Euro-American container, right?

Because collectivistic cultures obviously can look at some of the co-dependency work differently and I understand that completely.

But I just started noticing all of these throughlines.

And so I started really diving into codependency

kind of as a conversation piece,

but also like a tool for understanding,

building a sense of self, capital S, kind of recovery just in general.

Like we say recovery seems almost like we're talking about like addiction, right?

But that is something I'll talk about. And Deney and I were doing a lot of

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