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You know, Billy Graham, he said by his own words that they found out that six months after the campaigns,

they couldn't find 80% of the people who responded.

You've got to have both.

You've got to be spiritually renewed.

You've got to be going to the porch.

You've got to be a disciple.

But you have to be a disciple who actually makes a disciple.

Welcome to the Keri Newhoff Leadership Podcast. I'm so glad you joined us and I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

Well, if you've ever had some success in the past and you run the play and it doesn't work, what do you do? That's what we're going to talk about when it comes to discipleship. And I know a lot of pastors that I talk to are saying, yeah, it's just not working. I think COVID kind of revealed. We have a discipleship crisis in the church. So Robbie Gallaudy is joining us along with Vic Green. Robbie ran a playbook on discipleship that was very, very successful

for a number of years as a pastor, and then 2020 hit, and it fell apart. He was training other

church leaders on how to do discipleship, and it stopped working. Well, what do you do when that

happens? That's what we're going to talk about in today's episode. If you want show notes,

you can get it at carynewhoff.com slash show notes or go to the art of leadership academy.com.

Join 20,000 leaders who are in the academy. We have great conversations on topics like this.

And guess what? None of the funk that you find on the internet, just leaders talking to each other.

Kind of like a continuation

of the conversations we do. Robbie Gallaty is the senior pastor of Long Hollow Church in Hendersonville,

Tennessee, outside of Nashville. He's the author of multiple books. He formed Replicate Ministries

to empower churches to activate their unique disciple-making movement. Vic Green is a pastor-coaching consultant.

He's the CEO of Replicate Ministries,

a ministry that trains now over 4,000 churches

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