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Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Clinical Challenges in Surgical Education: Pregnancy and Parenthood

Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Science, Health & Fitness, Medicine, Education

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2021

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Tick tock tick tock, 5 min is up! There is a plus sign on the testing stick. And you are…. Pregnant! Congratulations??? Join Drs. Erika Rangel, Eugene Kim, Yue-yung Hu, and Debbie Li as they discuss the challenges surgeons and trainees face as they navigate through pregnancy and parenthood.

Learning objectives:
In this episode, we learn about the personal experiences including the good, the bad, and the ugly behind pregnancy and parenthood. We discuss about the stigma faced and experienced by many surgeons and trainees, and most importantly, ways we can support our current and future trainees to navigate this deeply personal and should be celebrated occasion in their life.

References
Incidence of Infertility and Pregnancy Complications in US Female Surgeons https://doi.org/10.1001/jamasurg.2021.3301
Pregnancy and Motherhood During Surgical Training - https://doi.org/10.1001/jamasurg.2018.0153
Perspectives of US General Surgery Program Directors on Cultural and Fiscal Barriers to Maternity Leave and Postpartum Support During Surgical Training - https://doi.org/10.1001/jamasurg.2021.1807
Factors Associated With Residency and Career Dissatisfaction in Childbearing Surgical Residents - https://doi.org/10.1001/jamasurg.2018.2571

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0:00.0

Behind the knife, the Surgery Podcast, where we take a behind the scenes intimate look at surgery from leaders in the field.

0:21.2

Hello and welcome to this special episode of Behind the Knife, the Surgery Podcast, where we will be discussing an exciting, deeply personal

0:29.6

and sometimes nauseating topic, parenthood in residency. My name is Debbie Lee. I'm one of the post-doctoral research

0:37.7

fellows at the surgical outcomes and quality improvement center and Northwestern University. And also a

0:43.8

general surgery resident at Loyola University Medical Center. It's my privilege to be joined by my

0:49.0

mentor, Dr. Yoroll Hu, as my co-host. Dr. Hu is a pediatric surgeon at the Anne and Robert H.

0:55.9

Laurie Children's Hospital of Chicago and co-PI for the second trial.

1:00.9

Hi everybody. Thanks for tuning in. This will be the first podcast on surgical education that we were

1:06.2

asked to do. And I thought this was such an important topic given the years of life that residency

1:12.7

falls during. And so we've invited two awesome guest speakers and I'm super excited to share with you

1:19.7

Yes. We're joined by Dr. Eric Rungel, G.I. Critical Care Surgeon at Brigham and Women's Hospital

1:26.4

and a national expert in this topic as featured in The New York Times. Hi Debbie and Yorong, it's

1:32.8

great to be here and I'm so excited to record this podcast with you guys on a topic that I'm

1:38.4

obviously very passionate about and I'm excited to have this platform to talk about it. We are also

1:43.6

joined by Dr. Eugene Kim, pediatric surgeon at Children's Hospital of Los Angeles.

1:49.4

Recent past presidents of association for academic surgery where he gave an enlightening talk

1:55.6

that brought the appropriate attention and action to safeguard the next generation of academic

2:01.5

surgeons. Thanks very much. It's great to be here with everybody. Thanks for the invitation.

2:06.2

Actually, first I kind of wanted to ask Debbie why she thought this topic was sometimes nauseating.

2:10.8

Well, that's what I've been told. I had not experienced the pregnancy before but I've been told

2:16.0

from my co-workers' attendings that pregnancy can be hard with your residency especially when

2:22.7

you're operating for extended period of time. And I think as a trainee, that is always a difficult

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