I said empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water.

It's about how hard you hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.

How much you can take and keep moving forward?

Join the movement expert Aaron Alexander

as he dives into the minds of the foremost innovative health care thinkers and movement masters on their approach to optimal health and wellness.

A Line Podcast.

And when one of the old Zen masters went to his teacher and said,

what is the way to liberation?

Teacher said, who is restraining?

He said no one.

If so, why should you ask for liberation?

It all bounces back to you. What do you want? Do you know what you want? Can you think it through? Say exactly what you want. And invariably you'll get back to the place where you are.

Because what you say you want is always the symptom, the expression of what you are now.

Welcome back to the Line Podcast. My name is Aaron Alexander and today I am still here in

habea Spain. I'm currently in a full squatting position in the nude in the buff

sitting by the pool here at my buddies chalet up in the hills and

Super super beautiful quite sunny finally getting a tan in this trip.

It's pretty cool. Today I got to chat with Mr. Cliff Hodges. Cliff Hodges is a fascinating

fellow. He is a outdoor specialist survival guide

He's been featured in all over the place outdoor magazine popular mechanics.

He's got a TV show on National Geographic

called remote survival. He is really smart. He graduated from MIT at the, what was it, Tau Beta Pie Eta Kappa Nu National Collegiate

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