Welcome to betrayal trauma recovery. This is Anne. I have Tony Perez, one of the co-founders of

clean browsing on today's episode. Before we get to that, thank you. Those of you who have given

the podcast a five-star rating on Apple Podcast or your other podcasting apps. Here's a five-star

rating we recently received. It says Freedom Through Truth. Amazing wisdom with these folks and

true help for those whose world has been ripped apart by betrayal and or porn highly recommended.

Only wish I had them sooner. Thank you. If you haven't already and you're so inclined,

please leave a five-star review with your feelings about the podcast on Apple Podcasts. I love

reading them. It really is humbling to me and also inspirational. I'm just so grateful that

you're taking part in this community and that you're here and you're listening and I'm grateful

for your support. The trail trauma recovery group is our daily online live support group where

you can talk to real people who really get it. You can attend anywhere. The first time you join,

we always recommend you do so from a laptop or a desktop because it's just a little bit easier

and perhaps the first time you attend. After you get the hang of it, then attending on your phone

or on a tablet is super easy. You can attend under your bed. You could attend in your storage room.

Anywhere where you can find some privacy, the thing you don't have to do is find childcare as long

as your kids know where you are so they can come get you. If they need you, you can just step out,

help your kids for a minute and then go back under the stairs. We are here especially during the

summer when things get crazy. If you're on vacation, if you're at a family reunion, we're here

for you all the time. We don't take a vacation. We're always here. To see our session schedule,

go to btr.org and we hope to see you in a session today. I have Tom Perez on today's episode. He

was born in Miami, Florida. He's a Colombian Cuban American living in Temecula, California and a

father to three and a husband to one. He is a Marine Corps veteran having done two tours in Iraq

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