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Surprise firsties. It's Jack and Lex. I'm sure you didn't expect to see us in your feed on a Tuesday,

but here we are. We have a very, very special episode for you today. Tomorrow we're actually having

Clayton Eckerd, the season 26 Bachelor on our podcast. I know it's a true crime podcast. Why would Clayton Eckerd, The Bachelor, be on our podcast? Well, some of you might know. And if you don't, you need to listen to this episode. He has been fighting a paternity scandal that's been going on for three years. And we actually covered it for our

premium feed. Last year, Lex? Yeah, definitely in the 2025 calendar year, but a few months back.

Yeah, we covered it because we were fascinated by the case. I'm a bachelor girlie. And it really is,

there's so many layers. It's so complex. So please listen to this episode

to kind of get yourself up to speed on everything that's going on. So you will have a good frame of

reference as we get into tomorrow's interview. We just recorded it earlier today. It's fascinating.

Clayton is a sweetie. And then we'll also have Stephanie Young Young who is doing the love trapped podcast with

Clayton telling his story on as well. So enjoy. And as you listen to this, you have to keep in mind

that Clayton was the tip of the iceberg. They have uncovered several more victims and they get

into that in the love trap podcast and we talk about some of that in our interview.

So if you want to do some of your own digging prior to listening to Tomorrow's interview, that would be great.

Otherwise, I'm sure there'll be enough context for you to follow everything.

Absolutely. See you then. Welcome to the second degree, your double dose of depravity. It's me, Jack. I'm here with Lex. And I'm so

excited about today's episode because it's a different kind of episode for us, right, Lex? Oh, yes. It's like the pop

culture, true crime crossover. We didn't know we needed, but we do. I mean, I knew I needed

it because I'm a bachelor fanatic. I read the Bachelor subreddit every night before I go to bed.

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