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Hi, Firste's. So we're doing something a little bit differently today. We're actually going to drop

you right into our full interview with two very special guests today. We have former bachelor

Clayton Eckerd who found himself in a life-rooting true crime saga that is too wild to believe.

Right. And our second interviewee is Stephanie Young, the host of the hit new podcast series

that chronicled Clayton's story, Love Trapped.

So we actually covered this story in a premium episode a few months back because it had quite a chokehold on Alexis and I.

And we ended up releasing

that in our main feed yesterday. So everybody who is not familiar with the story or who needs a

little refresher can be brought up to speed because it's very complicated and very convoluted.

So make sure you go listen to that before you listen to this. Absolutely. So we're going to give

you a little TLDR just to get you started. So Clayton Eckerd first

rose to fame as the lead of the Bachelor season 26, whereas Ernest Charm, mixed with a

controversial ending, made him a very memorable figure in the Bachelor franchise. But more recently,

his name has resurfaced in a very different context,

a messy and highly public paternity scandal involving a woman named Laura Michelle Owens,

who claimed that he fathered her twins, a claim that Clayton has strongly denied while fighting it out

in court. Right, and the situation has unfolded online in real time,

pulling fans into a bizarre mix of legal drama, internet sleuthing, and the situation has unfolded online in real time, pulling fans into a bizarre mix of legal drama, internet sleuthing, and questions about truth, accountability, and how quickly a reality TV star's narrative can spiral beyond the show that made them famous.

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