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The Paracast — The Gold Standard of Paranormal Radio

Classic Episode: October 26, 2008 — Paranormal Theorist Mac Tonnies

The Paracast — The Gold Standard of Paranormal Radio

The Paracast Company

Science, News, Society & Culture

3.4683 Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2025

⏱️ 112 minutes

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Summary

A very special episode featuring cutting-edge scientific theorist Mac Tonnies, who holds forth on all those ongoing Martian mysteries, the Phoenix Mars probe, the state of paranormal belief systems, and various theories on the reality of UFOs that often extend beyond the concept of visits by ET. Sadly Mac died in 2009.


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0:00.0

So you've entered the Paracast with your host, Gene Steinberg and David Beuling.

0:31.3

So Matt Tonys, I understand that snow has been seen on the dead seas of Barsoom. Is that correct? That is correct. Snow has been seen, and it's water ice too. So it's actually snow as in snow that you'd see here on Earth.

0:39.0

Now, we should explain what Barsoom is for those who are not acquainted with the writings of Edgar

0:45.2

Ice Burroughs going back to what, oh, at least 110 years ago or something like that.

0:50.1

Yeah, we're going back away now.

0:51.7

Sure.

0:52.8

The Barsoom in Edgar Ice Burroughs, John Carter going back away now. Sure. The Barsoom in Eggiery's, John Carter of Mars, pulp thrillers, was the native word for Mars.

1:01.7

That's the Martian word for Mars.

1:03.6

There are many others, but that's the one that's stuck, not from Burroughs, but Burroughs Barsoom is the one that is the one that kind of stuck in the popular imagination.

1:12.7

Now, he depicted Mars as a dying world, but of course, what we know now is that it's pretty well dead already.

1:19.1

Yeah, he depicted it as kind of in the Ray Bradbury traditional, and that point is romantic, a little more comic book.

1:28.0

But yeah, it was still couched in that H.G. Wells notion of a dying planet, you know,

1:33.3

about planet, you know, it's kind of dwindling and fading away.

1:37.7

Now, however, we learned a lot of things about Mars over the years, of course, that Mars couldn't have

1:46.0

life.

1:47.0

Maybe it has microbial life, but now it has snow, water-based snow, not snow like you'd find

1:53.0

on one of the moons of Saturn or Jupiter or something like that.

1:57.0

Water-based snow, does that prove there's life there?

2:00.0

It doesn't prove there's life, but it establishes once again,

2:04.3

and this has been established so many times now,

2:06.9

that Mars has all of the chemical necessities for life,

2:10.6

has all the ingredients for life.

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