Hello, this Graham. Welcome to a classic big interview. This time we go back to season 1617. This is what I had to say about it back then.

The second part of this interview with Steve McManaman,

recorded in Barcelona, came when Steve was in the city for the Manchester City Champions League game.

Steve's got happy memories of the camp now on Champions League Knights.

His deft clever chip over Roberto Bonano, established a crucial two-go lead in the semi-final classical during his time with

Madrid. The season led to his second Champions League medal. You're going to hear about ugly scenes outside

the stadium for the Galactioc and the Heroes Welcome

which awaited him in the dressing room following that win on enemy ground.

But there was frustration too.

Maca recalls the growing tensions between the players

and the club's hierarchy which culminated in a series of late night team meetings

to debate whether or not to celebrate the 2003 lead title publicly.

Astonishing scenes they were.

He discusses the brilliance of Ronaldo, the Brazilian one, and how Sudan was not an instant hit as a player at Madrid.

He also notes what that might be able to tell us about Paul Bogba at United.

Plus there's Claude Macalelli, a footballer who was more important than Louis Figo and whose departure

marked the end of that famous Madrid Galactical's era. Maca knew when it was time to move on and he knows how to tell his story.

I think he'll agree with me. Enjoy it now. Gerapika was on television recently, I was a bit of a character, can play, but a lad, certainly not show in a

confidence, intelligence, and he said that in the old

traffic dressing room, one, I knew this already,

he played a lot of poker with Rooney and Shea, Wes, Brown and one or two others and the poker schools

helped them integrate, help me show exactly what you're saying, decent lad, phases stakes,

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