Well done. You've sorted through the embarrassment of riches that is the modern podcast landscape

and found me Rob Briden on my podcast. In this series of Briden and I talk to among

others Harry Hill, Ben Elton, Charlotte Church, Steve Cougan and Dame Harriet Walter.

And that's just a few. We tend to chat for about 45 minutes to an hour never longer.

It's terrific conversation, reminiscent where appropriate and exchange of anecdotes.

So do join me Rob Briden wherever you get your podcasts.

New episodes of Briden and are available early and ad free on Amazon Music or by subscribing

to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app.

The Panic is a new comedy podcast from Wondery that leans into our most absurd anxieties and

defuses them with humor and actual advice. Listen to Don't Panic on the Wondery app or

wherever you get your podcasts.

From ABC, this is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

I read a lot of books for this podcast but none have I devoured as quickly as the one

we're talking about today. It's called Greetings from Utopia Park, surviving a transcendent

childhood. This is not a dry meditation guide. This is an extremely compelling memoir about

growing up within the transcendental meditation organization. Transcendental meditation also

called TM is practiced by many well-known people including Howard Stern, the movie director

David Lynch, Katie Perry, Jerry Seinfeld, as well as many of my own friends and colleagues

like George Stephanopoulos and Robert Roberts from Good Morning America. But my guest today,

the author and journalist Claire Hoffman grew up inside a remote community of, I guess we

could say orthodox practitioners, seeing a side of TM that isn't often discussed. To be

clear, however, Claire has not penned some blindly negative tell-all as you're going to hear

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