Civ-Mil Relations in the U.S. and Strategy Tales from Australia

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🗓️ 23 September 2016

⏱️ 34 minutes

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In the latest episode of our podcast, editor-in-chief Ryan Evans sat down with Gen. Jim Mattis and Kori Schake of the Hoover Institution to talk about civil-military relations, the subject of their new book Warriors and Citizens: American Views of Our Military. This is the first major study of civil-military relations in years. The conversation also turned to strategy, with Mattis observing that Washington is a "strategy-free environment" and that this is a problem that goes back through two administrations. Next, Ryan sat down with Richard Fontaine, the president of the Center for a New American Security, to discuss his summer in Australia, where he was an Alliance 21 Fellow at the U.S. Studies Centre at the University of Sydney. Fontaine was there to take an up close look at the U.S.-Australian relationship and hard questions related to American strategy in Asia. Have a listen! Image: U.S. Marine Corps Photo by Cpl. Thor J. Larson

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0:00.0	You are listening to the Warren the Rocks podcast on strategy, defense and foreign affairs.
0:12.4	My name is Ryan Evans.
0:13.6	I'm the editor-in-chief of Warren the Rocks.
0:15.9	In this episode, I talked to General Jim Mattis and Corey Schake
0:18.9	of the Hoover Institution about their new book,
0:21.0	Warriors and Citizens, American Views of Our Military.
0:24.0	It's a major new study of civil military relations.
0:27.0	I also talk to Richard Fontaine, the president of the Center for New American Security,
0:31.0	about his summer in Australia.
0:34.3	First up, General Mattis and Corey Schake.
0:37.0	Congrats on the new book. Why was this the time to write a new major study on
0:48.7	civil military relations? Ryan the last study that had been done about civil military relations was done
0:56.3	before the current wars that we've engaged in. It was done by Peter Fever and
1:01.0	a number of folks at Duke University and it was time after over
1:05.5	a dozen years of war with the all-volunteer force to come back, take a look at it and say,
1:10.9	what has this done to the relation between our civilians, our
1:15.0	civilian control, our civilian leadership, our civilian society, and a military, a
1:20.4	shrunken military from what it was during the Cold War, what it was in World War II,
1:25.8	what it was even in the 90s, and what has it done to the relations between these two elements
1:30.6	of our society?
1:31.6	And how did you go about answering these questions from the data collection to the book we had before us?
1:37.0	Right, what we began with was the idea that you couldn't use anecdotes.
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