Hi, I'm Ellen Pompeo. Welcome to Tell Me.

Today's guest is Cindy Crawford, who needs no introduction, supermodel, fashion icon,

television personality, and a businesswoman. Cindy and I are friends and we do the Meaningful

Beauty campaign together and we hang out and drink tequila occasionally. We had a great conversation

and I hope you all enjoy it. So my guest today is Cindy Crawford, who I love and work with,

and I'm lucky enough to be sitting across from her right now. She said we can talk about everything.

Everything, anything, and yeah, it's nice to be in person. I know. It really is nice to be in person.

So you started Meaningful Beauty so long ago before really anybody was doing it. I mean,

as far as supermodels, no one was doing businesses, right? Were they? You were really the first one.

I mean, I don't want to discredit someone who's doing something that I don't know about.

It wasn't like, oh, I'm in a model my career on hers. Well, gave you the idea to start a business,

like honestly, no one was really doing that. I was a fan of all of you women. You Helena,

Christie, Naomi, there's never been another crew like it. Let me just say that. Let me just get

that out there. But no one was really doing it. And like you really just came out of the gate,

a business person when no one else was doing it. Where'd you get the idea to do that?

I think a couple of things. One is, and I think this is true for actors as well. But you know,

it used to be like, you're an actor. That's what you do. Right. You know, or you're a model. And if

you try to do something else, you're a slash. Remember when I was like model slash actor is

singer slash model. And that second thing you tried to do, especially the more famous or successful

you were for the one thing, the harder it was for you to add something else to your resume,

because it was like, you had to do it that exact same level, which is often impossible if you've

been really successful. I think for me, like, I love modeling. And I think, God, am I that shallow,

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