On this episode of Tell Me, I'm speaking with Adam Grant. Adam is an organizational psychologist

and a Ted Speaker. His latest book is called Think Again, The Power of Knowing What You

Don't Know, actually inspired me to do this podcast. He talks in this book about the

power of rethinking what we think we already know and how important it is to reframe the

way we think about things. And it's a practice that I think we all could benefit from how

to be more mindful and how to see things from different points of view. We don't necessarily

have to agree. I really enjoyed our conversation and I hope you do as well.

Adam Grant is here. I'm going to try to act and contain my excitement. I'm really happy

to meet you. I'm a huge fan. Oh, I'm honored. I've been watching you for a long time. So

the enthusiasm is mutual. Oh, my goodness. Okay. So I'm sure you have things you want

to ask me too. Be careful what you wish for. So I actually have a story to tell you.

Your last book that you wrote, Think Again, is my favorite. I mean, honestly, I could speak

to you for 19 hours about all of the books and all of the podcast episodes, but let's

just stick to think again so I can keep it in an hour. I had read it in the spring or early

summer and then I was thinking about, you know, whether or not I would do this podcast.

And then this morning when I was on my hike, I was re-listening to your book on tape

and I thought, Oh, my goodness. Adam Grant actually inspired me to do this podcast and I had

completely forgotten. You know, you read information. You read a book. It all drops in and then

you sort of go about your day and you think about something else. But it was incredible

that today I was reminded that you were actually a huge part of my inspiration for doing this

podcast. So how do you like them, Apple? I'm honored. I hope you don't regret it. This

is my main reaction. Now there's the funniest Herman psychology for I think what you're

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