And the Hey everyone is Andrew Cleven with this week's interview with the

wonderful Megan Basham. I always like talking to Megan especially because I feel that there are two essential weaknesses

on the right. One of them is the culture and one of them is reporting and Megan as you probably

know is the Daily Wires culture reporter, and she does a great job of seeing the culture, not the way I see it from the cultural point of view, but from the stuff that goes on behind the culture and how the culture comes to you.

And she has a book now that I am in the middle of reading called Shepherds For Sale, how evangelical

leaders traded the truth for a leftist agenda.

And it is not maybe the most cheerful book you'll ever read, but it is a really well researched

and well-written and insightful look at what has happened to a certain segment of the

Christian community. Megan, it's always good to see you. How you doing?

I'm doing great and it's great to be here again. Had a little hiatus because I was

working on this book.

Yeah, I know.

I know, you obviously were working hard on it.

It's an incredible act of research.

I mean, it's always been one of the things that I like best about your work.

And also, I just want to say it was lovely to meet your other two dimensions at the

RNC it was nice to actually meet you in person. I think that that was a first time we ever met in person right?

Yes and that seems

unbelievable but it's true I was able to determine there is a real Andrew

Clavin he is not an AI creation and that was great that was a big

disappointment to me to find that I thought I was I thought I had been much better man

So let's talk about this I mean before we before we get into the the meat of the book

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