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The Lawfare Podcast

Chuck Rosenberg on The Oath

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🗓️ 21 May 2019

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Chuck Rosenberg is a former U.S. Attorney, former senior FBI official, and the former acting head of the Drug Enforcement Administration. He is now an analyst with NBC News and MSNBC. He also has a podcast with MSNBC called The Oath with Chuck Rosenberg. The podcast draws its name from the Oath of Office, which many public servants take upon their entry into government service.

In the podcast, Chuck speaks with other former government officials about their careers, pivotal moments they witnessed in history, and what drew them to public service. He sat down with Benjamin Wittes this week to discuss his podcast, his career in government service, and his thoughts on the Oath of Office.

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know bull and the aftermath.

0:33.8

First you need to know what's in the oath and broadly speaking, it's the notion that

0:39.5

we pledge, swear, affirm, to defend the Constitution of the United States against all

0:45.1

enemies far and and domestic, to bear true faith and allegiance to the same.

0:50.4

What's missing from the oath, which by the way is mandated from Congress, is a pledge

0:55.0

to any particular person or party or president.

0:58.4

The law enforcement environment in which I grew up was not bipartisan, it was nonpartisan,

1:03.4

and bipartisan makes no sense in that context.

1:08.5

Nonpartisan makes sense.

1:10.4

And so it struck me when I was listening to people talk about Jim Comey or Bob Mueller

1:16.1

on the air and they would describe them as Republicans or Democrats or whatever they

1:21.1

described them as.

1:23.0

And many cases, I had not only had I never thought of them that way, I didn't know that.

1:28.5

That might strike people as odd.

1:30.4

I worked for Bob Mueller and didn't know his political party, but in fact Ben, I worked

1:34.8

for Bob Mueller and didn't know his political party.

1:37.5

I'm Michaela Fogel and this is the LawFair podcast, May 21st, 2019.

1:43.6

Chuck Rosenberg is a former US attorney, former senior FBI official, and the former acting

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