Welcome to Karen Hunter's awesome, and we are in the high holy season of He is risen, Jesus and all of that.

And I thought it would be a nice time to really reflect on this thing called Christianity

and who's really a Christian.

And what does it mean to be a follow of Christ?

And what does it mean to be an evangelical?

Well, I had this conversation a few years ago with Dr. O'Brey Hendricks, Jr., who is a professor

at Columbia University in the Department of Religion, and Dr. Anthea Butler, take a listen.

If you're one of those people that you've got a problem with black people or whatever,

you better shut your mouth. You better hear what I'm saying to you. You better shut your white

mouth. You better shut your white mouth. I'm not kidding you. I know some of you is raised in the

deep south and you's raised by prejudiced people and bigoted people. You better get that out of your system. You better get it out of your system. It'll cause you to suffer right along with those masters. It'll cause you to suffer right along with them. These are God's people. And I know that there's wicked in white races and wicked and black races and all that.

I'm not just to find none of that stuff.

I'm just saying God knows what happened to the black race.

He knows how they wound up over here.

And God is going to reimburse the black people for all their trouble.

Yes.

I hope that happens, Pastor John Kilpatrick.

But in the meantime, the rest of y'all's brothers and sisters don't believe that.

We're going to talk right now.

Of course, Dr. Anthea Butler is here.

My partner in power.

And joining us is the author of Christians Against Christianity.

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