rather than, you know, ruminating on what has already happened in the past or worrying about what

might happen in the future, learning to live right here in this present moment and in the presence

of God in this moment. And that's brought me so much peace even when circumstances have been really,

really hard and stressful and challenging.

Welcome back. I am so excited for this episode with Jennifer Tucker. She is the author of Breath as Prayer and Present in Prayer. We're diving into Christian meditation and

breath prayers. Simple, powerful ways to calm anxiety, focus your mind, and connect with

God. I mean, does it get better than that? I say no. That's why I know you're going to love this one.

Now, without a do, here's my new friend Jennifer. I am fan girling a bit to have you on because your work has been so impactful for me. I've

loved everything that you've written on breath and meditation and how it's such a key to our

physical and our emotional and our spiritual health. It's been an inspiration. Your work has been

such a helpful tool as I've been building my

app. So I feel like, you know, I get to, I get to learn from your brilliance right now in real

time. So thank you for joining us. No, I'm so excited to be here. It's an honor, actually. I'm so

excited. My first question is, why do you think Christians are so freaked out by the concept of meditation?

I think they're freaked out by it because there's probably many reasons because we get

freaked out about a lot of things that we're because we're so scared of want to make sure that

everything's biblical, want to make sure we're following, you know, everything. Meditation, though,

has been a part of Christian practice for centuries.

I mean, the Bible tells us over and over to meditate on his word. And so meditation in itself is

not a evil word or anything, but in reality, meditation is fundamental to our spiritual growth

and to our faith. I mean, into our practice of studying

scripture, if we're not meditating on it, it's not going to sink in as deep. We can do surface

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