Hi David. Hi, Rosabel. It's your friend David, as you know, because you just said my name, David.

It's always good to be sure. Anyone could have taken your phone, you know?

Today's topic for Flight of Spirit is about the downfall of one of my old favourite Christian musicians,

and you won't know anything about them,

but I'm wondering if anyone that you've been a fan of has had a big downfall.

I think it's inevitable that everyone has been a fan of someone

who's been cancelled in the past decade.

The one that immediately came to mind is not really the number one most upsetting example,

but this author that I used to really love, I think, was accused of sexual assault

with one of his students.

But I never really followed it up.

I just stopped reading his work.

Do you think you'd ever pick the book up again?

I really loved the book.

I really loved his writing.

It's really sad.

But I don't think I would.

I really believe, like, you can't really...

You know, some people think you can separate the art from the artist,

but art is made by people, you know.

Do you think if I got cancelled,

you'd continue listening to the hit podcast, Flightless Bird?

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