Hi Dave. Hi Hayden. How are you? I'm a good thing. You sound like you're in some sort of

wind tunnel in New Zealand. No, I'm just outside. This is what it sounds like outside New Zealand.

How's your week going? It's okay. I've got some kind of sort-viral fatigue and my eye is twitching.

If anyone is a medical expert, my eye has been twitching for like one to two weeks.

Have you been sick? I didn't know this.

I don't tell you stuff. Dave, you're a great guy, but I just, I don't think that you would care you've got a busy life

over there as a celebrity

in fact I think you'd be annoyed to find out about

other people's problems if anything

I really love that you just call me a celebrity

I love that it really tickled a

core part of my LA being

yeah that's that's a derogatory

I mean this in the most derogatory possible way.

I'm really excited to call you today because I often call you about things that you perhaps,

that both of us don't know that much about. But today I'm calling you about the episode we're

about to do, which is about sort of the impact of Christian music in America. And we both grew up in

this world. And so, holy shit, what a, what a thing to call you about. I love Christian music.

It was the first music I ever listened to, Christian rock. A lot of my formative music experiences,

all Christian rock.

What was the first Christian band that you listened to, do you think?

One called Audio Adrenaline, and they had an album called Some Kind of Zombie.

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