And somebody said that copper won World War II boy you'd be speaking German

and there was a body over in over in the grass at this at this overlook so that we we had to delay our

interviews for about 45 minutes until the local volunteers got there and

took care of it. All right, there's one bad idea after another bad idea after another bad idea.

It's like a host of bad ideas.

Fear and hysteria is easier to, I don't know, it catches on easier than common sense and pragmatism.

So we're here live in Duluth, Minnesota at Outdoor Writers Association meeting there and

we've accumulated a bunch of folks for a backcountry hunters and angers podcast.

I'm this is Hal hearing I've been hosting these and I with what they call

themselves is the boys of TU,

although which would be Trout Unlimited.

I don't know if I'd call them out or not, but, uh,

men, men, men of TU. We have, yeah, we have the Brett Prettyman, Mark Taylor, and Chris Hunt. And we've all known each other quite a while, so I did some big trips with Chris for some

Field and Stream stories back in the over the years really quite a few in Colorado and Idaho and all over.

We've had we've had some adventures I guess.

Yeah, so I. So I'm, one of them is I would say what are y'all working on right now?

This from France.

Well, typically we're, you know, we're busy all over the country with conservation work, but the three of us are all part of TUs growing and sort of, I don't know, we're sort of evolving our communications shop a little bit to where, you know, how you used to be, I'd give you a shout sometime in, you know, March or April,

and we'd be in the field sometime in July or...

Right, so, you know, whether it was hiking down into the

bowels of the wrong plateau to catch eight inch cutthroat right that that was a

cool trip that was a good trip or we know we go to Southeast Alaska and look at the

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