Yeah, I'm being complimentary, but it is a free-wing circus with the clowns and the vokeswagons and the flaming hoops and stuff.

So many people are lacking the opportunity to connect with the outdoors that when they get it,

they go for it without thinking. So they didn't

engage it at all. They let him have the pig and the bear guys came and trap the bear

and it was ancient. And if they are in a cage and they, you know, you peak up to the window to look at him

inside the trap, you're going to pee your pants when they punch that trap, you know,

and just pound that metal great they're just this

massive thing.

Hello this is Hal Herring working podcast for backcountry hunters and anglers we We're in Duluth, Minnesota.

I'm here tonight at the Holiday Inn

with Chris Millgate, having some past blue ribbons.

And we're going to talk about her work and what she does with

Tightline Media which is out of Idaho Falls, Idaho, Southeast Idaho.

And as she said, if you had had to people ask her why she lives there

and she didn't even try to explain it because Southeast Idaho is enough

explanation if you know the country there so last time I think the last time I saw you before on this was at the

Malhear Refuge one. That's right. It was foggy it was freezing.

Foggy about right at zero or a couple of degrees.

I was wondering how your equipment possibly worked.

Isn't that cold, you remember?

Yeah, I can tell you how it works.

I stick all the batteries in my armpits.

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