Welcome to the Bullwark Podcast.

It is June 20, 2023 and I've been promising this for some time.

And so, of course, we're going to be sitting down today with the former governor of the

state of New Jersey, Chris Christie, who identifies himself on his Twitter handle as husband,

proud father, former governor, and US attorney, Springsteen fan running for president.

Good morning, Governor Christie.

Surely thanks for having me.

Well, we're going to get to the, what were you thinking question a little bit later,

but I want to start off with last night.

I'm sure that like a lot of other folks that you are watching, the former president sit

down with Brett Baer, they covered a lot of ground.

Where do you want to start on all of this?

I want to talk about the, the personal record of the president, all the very best people

he hired, but as a former US attorney, I just wanted to get your take on what he said about

the indictment against him, his acknowledgement that he had the records, that he was too busy

to look at them, did not deny that, that in fact, he defied a grand jury, subpoena.

Your reaction, did he make things worse for himself last night?

Well, I think the best way to answer that, Charlie, is to say that what I was thinking

as I was watching it was that his defenseliers were jumping out of whatever window.

There was nearest to them as they listened to him, essentially admit unnational television

that he engaged in obstruction of justice by saying, yeah, we got the subpoena, but

I wasn't giving them any boxes until I had time to go through it.

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