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The Bulwark Podcast

Andrew Weissmann: Jack Smith Cometh

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Special Counsel Jack Smith is racing the clock, Justices Alito and Thomas seem to be taking cues from Donald Trump's "What are you gonna do about it?" approach to following rules, Republicans are against the IRS and gun laws unless Hunter is involved, and Barr's about-face is way too little, way too late. Andrew Weissmann joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Bullwork Podcast. I'm Charlie Sykes. It is the longest day of the year. I don't know

0:13.4

what that this would mean. It will be the longest podcast of the year, but we have so much ground

0:18.5

to cover. And we are fortunate to be joined by an extremely busy guy these days, Andrew Weisman,

0:24.7

former FBI general counsel, former Justice Department prosecutor, lead prosecutor,

0:29.6

Robert Mueller's investigation. And now a professor of practice at NYU Law School and co-host of MSNBC's

0:36.4

prosecuting Donald Trump podcast with Mary McCord. So, Andrew, thank you for making time to

0:42.1

talk with us today. It's great to be here. I've joined you in the podcast business. I know, and

0:47.6

you guys have been absolutely killing it. There are so many things that I want to talk to you about.

0:52.3

I want to get your take on the Washington Post story about the Department of Justice and the FBI

0:57.5

slow off. I want to talk about the plea deal for Hunter Biden, the breaking story about the latest

1:04.2

flying justice Samuel Lito and pro-publica Donald Trump. Obviously ignoring his lawyer's advice

1:10.9

going on Brett Baer, the disbarment hearing against John Weisman. But could we start with this?

1:18.0

Because Andrew, I am still haunted by that scene. In your marvelous book, Where Law Ands Inside

1:24.4

the Muller and the Investigation. And you begin the book by describing how you were listening

1:32.8

on the radio and you heard Bill Barr preemptively releasing his spin on the Mueller report.

1:41.2

And your book is really escaping take down of what Barr did. And it's just from the New York

1:46.3

Times review, Mueller's fundamental flaw, Weisman says, was a persistent faith in the Justice

1:51.4

Department headed by his old friend William Barr. The Mueller team had meticulously laid out their

1:57.2

findings in their 448 page and deceptically ordered a report only to be blindsided by Bill Barr's

2:03.9

four page self-styled summary, which Weisman depicts as a negatively cynical distortion of the truth.

2:10.3

We had just been played by the Attorney General. Okay, fast forward to this week.

2:16.8

How bizarre is it that Bill Barr has emerged as one of the most

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