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Well, hey, Sherry. Welcome back to the show. It's good to see you. Hi, Heidi. It's so good to be

here. So I'm super excited to have you here. First of all, last time you were here, we had a gazillion downloads of that show really popular. It turns out that people are asking the question, are faith and science compatible. And we've been told for, you know, eons now that faith and science are not compatible. This gave birth, of course,

to the rise in theistic evolution and people trying so desperately to reconcile their faith.

And you've been at the forefront of this conversation for a really long time, and you say

that science and faith are absolutely not at odds with each other. Why, why, how can you be so bold,

Jerry is to jump into such a topic as this with such confidence? Well, I mean, strictly from a

Christian vantage point or worldview, if God created all things and made things the way or which

the Bible says, which we know is truth, then we shouldn't, first of all, be afraid to study our world because it should give us evidences of his creative

hand. We should see, when we see order and we see design, it points to a creator. In fact,

we know that the scripture says that all creation sings and gives glory to him because of its presence.

And so we shouldn't be afraid of science. We should not be afraid of what new discoveries are being

made because, again, we know the truth. We know that it points to our creator. And the more

that we are finding, the more that we are studying, the more we see true evidences of fingerprints of his handiwork,

of his design. I love to use the example when I talk to students about that because our students

are really struggling with this because they don't know what to do with it. But you know, you're

walking along on a hike in a forest and you come across a boulder and it has the word hello carved into it you know

that that didn't just pop up right there's no way and why because you know you could have a tree

fall and you know knock into it or someone throwing rocks at it or whatever but it it has information

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