Abby Johnson has always been fiercely determined to help women in need. This desire is what led Abby to a career with Planned Parenthood, the nation's largest abortion provider, and caused her to flee the organization, becoming an outspoken advocate for the pro-life movement. I met Abby this summer at a pro-life event that we were speaking at together in Washington, D.C.

And I got to tell you, this lady is the real deal.

And she's joining me today to talk about the future of the pro-life movement in a post-Biden era.

Where do we go from here?

We're going to answer that question today.

This is the Heidi St. John podcast.

Stick around.

I think you're going to be encouraged.

Thank you. So glad to be here.

So this is an amazing time, I think, to sort of be alive. We just watched the election results come in last week and obviously clean sweep now for Donald Trump.

Looks like the House, the Senate, obviously the entire executive branch.

And I am wondering, because, like, I'm sure you and I haven't talked about this a whole lot,

but I was, I am, not was, I am pretty frustrated with the

Republican Party's sloppy, you know, wording on the pro-life issue now. It seems like they're

sliding on a lot of social issues. We've sort of been sort of moving more to the left. People

say, well, we're trying to get votes. And I understand that. But I want to know what you thought about the

election results and sort of how we can use what's happening now, because I feel like we've got

a little bit of high ground, use what's happening now to really become better at the defense

of life in this country. Yeah, I mean, I share the frustration. I don't think that it was the right move to remove,

you know, the pro-life planks from the GOP platform. I mean, number one, I think it's completely

unnecessary. I think abortion wins.

I mean, it just does. Like, it wins among Republicans. I actually had a very intense breakfast

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