China and Russia vs. You — Inside the new cyber war

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Cyber attacks are on the rise and the threats impact us all. Which countries are leading these moves and how can we combat them? Britain’s National Cyber Security Centre says that the UK faced four ‘nationally significant’ attacks a week on average in the past year. It adds that China poses a "capable" cyber threat, "targeting a wide range of sectors and institutions across the globe’, and highlights the activities of Russia, Iran and North Korea. In today’s episode Gavin Esler talks to James Sullivan, Director of Cyber and Tech at RUSI, the Royal United Services Institute to discuss scale and nature of cyber attacks, and assess how governments can respond. • This episode of This Is Not A Drill is supported by Incogni the service that keeps your private information safe, protects you from identity theft and keeps your data from being sold. There’s a special offer for This Is Not A Drill listeners – go to https://incogni.com/notadrill to get an exclusive 60% off your annual plan. • Support us on Patreon to keep This Is Not A Drill producing thought-provoking podcasts like this. Written and presented by Gavin Esler. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Managing Editor Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Sharing intimate photos of her without her consent.
0:03.0	Unwanted touching. Unwanted comments. Unwanted nudes.
0:06.6	Controlling what she can and can't wear.
0:08.5	Controlling who she can and can't see.
0:10.3	Threatening her.
0:11.7	Enough. This is abuse.
0:14.3	If you think it's wrong, act on it.
0:16.5	Call it out, show support, report it.
0:19.4	There are many ways you can safely tackle violence against women and girls.
0:23.4	Find out how at gov.uk slash enough.
0:27.4	If someone is in danger, call 999.
0:32.5	Britain's National Cybersecurity Centre, the NCSC, says that the UK faced four nationally significant
0:39.4	cyber attacks are weak on average in the past year. In its annual review published this week,
0:45.1	the NCSC writes that China poses a capable cyber threat, targeting a wide range of sectors
0:50.9	and institutions across the globe, including the UK, and highlights the activities of Russia, Iran and North Korea,
0:58.0	among what it calls an evolving cyber intrusion sector.
1:02.0	Today we'll get an expert view on the scale and nature of cyber attacks
1:06.0	and assess how governments can respond.
1:08.0	I'm Gavin Esler, and this is Not a Drill. The NCSC report identifies more than 200 significant cyber attacks on UK organizations in the past 12 months, more than double the previous
1:46.5	year. So what can governments do about the cyber threat from strategic rivals and criminal gangs
1:53.2	engaged in cyber blackmail? I'm joined by James Sullivan, Director of Cyber and Tech at Rusey,
1:59.2	the Royal United Services Institute. Hello, James.
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