We actually passed the 10 million mark earlier this year, so we're not aiming for the 20 million mark.

That's where we're aiming for.

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Hey folks. My guest today is Nicholas Vandenberg. He's building a tool called chilipiper.com.

Automate, he helps you automate lead qualification, routing, and scheduling. Nicholas,

you ready to take us to the top?

Let's do it.

Last time I saw you was pre-COVID in New York, I think it was 2018-2019.

We had our little CEO mastermind and you were talking about breaking a million-dollar run rate and how excited you were.

And now you're like, you exploded.

What the hell happened?

Yeah, there's a lot of things happen. Yeah.

It's a different world.

Well, when COVID happened, we,

it's all sorts of advice

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