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Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson

🟣Chief Growth Officer @ Thorne: Negative Split Life Philosophy w/Mary Beech🟣 | Ep. 503

Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson

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Education, Business, How To, Entrepreneurship, Marketing

4.91K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Running the second half of a marathon faster than the first sounds borderline impossible, but Mary Beech treats that idea (the negative split) as a life philosophy. As Chief Growth Officer at Thorne, she sat down with Jay Schwedelson to get into why Gen Z will sit through an hour-long Reddit AMA but scroll right past your TikTok, why 65% of Americans say picking a supplement is more confusing than filing their taxes, and what actually changes when a marketer trades the CMO seat for full P&L ownership.

Best Moments:

(03:45) Why she'd never go backwards to CMO and what the CGO title really unlocks

(05:30) Her head of sales is her closest peer at Thorne, on purpose

(07:45) The wellness confidence stat that should make every marketer rethink their content

(08:30) Gen Z's split brain, six-second ads and hour-long Reddit AMAs in the same week

(13:30) Why TikTok hasn't cracked for a clinical supplement brand even though everyone else is winning there

(18:45) The negative split applied to your career, today gets to be better than yesterday ㅤ

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Do This, Not That, the podcast from marketers.

0:05.0

We share quick tips, things you can do right now, and then we add a little bit of chaos at the end of every episode.

0:11.0

We also keep it short, like this intro. Let's check it out.

0:15.0

We are back for Do This, Not That, and I have an incredible guest here.

0:20.0

Who is here? Mary Beach is here.

0:22.6

She is the chief growth officer at Thorne. Now, why am I so excited? Because, first of all,

0:28.8

my wife is a customer. She takes Thorne magnesium like every day or whatever. So I'm getting street

0:34.6

credit by having Mary here. But Mary is leading this, not just the marketing

0:39.0

organization, but the growth of Thorne, which is an incredible, I don't even want to call it

0:43.3

just like a wellness brand or a company that sells nutritional supplements.

0:47.9

There's so much more.

0:49.8

They are this modern direct-to-consumer business that's at one of the hardest intersections of modern

0:55.4

marketing where you're trying to drive digital growth in a category, you know, this wellness

1:00.5

category where trust matters more than just the hype, which is like a lot of the direct-to-consumer

1:07.4

category. So Mary is leading it all. And if you don't know Thorne,

1:11.2

they are trusted by thousands of healthcare practitioners. Over a hundred professional sports

1:16.9

team to use them. It is bananas. They are the cool kids on the block. Mary's leading it all. We're

1:22.4

going to dig into it. Mary, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me, Jay.

1:26.2

Thrilled to be here and so glad to hear your wife's a customer.

1:29.1

There you go.

1:30.2

I'm excited.

1:31.2

So I feel like I didn't do justice to what Thorne really does.

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