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The Lawfare Podcast

Chatter: Renaming Military Bases and Principled Conservatism with Kori Schake

The Lawfare Podcast

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Kori Schake is the Director of Foreign and Defense Policy at the American Enterprise Institute. She has also worked in policy positions at the State Department, the Defense Department and the White House, taught at West Point, and more recently, served on the commission tasked with renaming military bases named for confederate figures. She sat down with Lawfare's editor in chief Ben Wittes, to talk about her unusually diverse career in national security, her work at AEI in a period when principled conservatism isn’t popular, and about the recent NATO summit.

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no bull and the aftermath.

0:30.4

Welcome to chatter.

0:37.2

I'm Benjamin Wittis, LawFair's editor-in-chief this week, Corey Shachy, on her diverse career

0:44.5

in and out of government, renaming military bases and principled conservatism in national

0:51.0

security.

0:54.6

What was so shocking to me about the State Department is that the people are amazing

0:59.4

and the institution does nothing to improve them.

1:04.4

The State Department believes that people walk in the door with everything they're going

1:08.6

to need to know.

1:13.1

It was the case until just a few months ago that in the student library at West Point,

1:20.8

there was a 20-foot high portrait of Robert E. Lee in his Confederate uniform with a black

1:29.1

slave holding his horse.

1:37.0

So Corey, I want to start with we have known each other a long time and in many different

1:47.5

contexts.

1:50.5

But I want to start with your super interesting career trajectory.

1:57.0

Oh, Lord.

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I think you are the only person I know who has served in the White House, the State Department

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and the Defense Department.

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